Canada’s dairy industry struts its stuff

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Insofar as supply management, or any tariff-based system, is net-negative, by definition, for both jobs and economic activity, touting the jobs created and economic contribution by supply management is misleading.

The truth is that in the absence of supply management, more jobs and more economic activity would be created in the dairy sector than there is now.

I can't understand how, or why, anyone in supply management could, with a straight face, expect anyone with an IQ bigger than their shoe size to believe this nonsense coming from DFC

"Oh what a tangled web supply management weaves, when first it practices to deceive"

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

I often see free advertising of belhalf of the dairy industry in the Globe and Mail and the National Post.
oh wait...........lol

Raube Beuerman

The fact that there are mortality dumpsters in front of most pork operations comprising effective bill boards without ontario pork decals is also laughable. I can not believe that the first sight my child on the school bus has to witness from a raised position when he passes a pork operation is such. Shame on my tax dollars being entrusted to growing forward 2.

Most of the hog farmers in my area have placed there dumpsters down the road at the line fence. Usually in front of there neighbors house.

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If one wants to slide immediately down the slippery slope, as the above anonymous poster seems willing to do, it would be quite easy to go one step further and ask about/make cheap shots about the "disposal" process involving un-wanted Jersey bull calves.

Lots of things in agriculture aren't pretty, but the ugliest are those premised on double-standards

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

Maybe you would like to comment on the dispossal of runt pigs in a litter .
All things ugly in agriculture are not related to SM only . Get a life !

I have a wonderful life - I've survived a type of cancer which I'm told has almost no chance of returning. In addition, I get to point out the inconsistencies and double standards farmers use to take advantage of other farmers, and in the process I drive one group apoplectic and the other group into gales of laughter.

The group my comments and criticisms drive into gales of laughter tell me my comments and criticisms are the only worthwhile part of this site and, if anything, my comments and criticisms, especially about supply management, don't go nearly far enough.

It's not my fault that supply management is the biggest, baddest and longest-running double-standard we have in agriculture - and that's why:

(1) it's the most-deserving target.
(2) its supporters have the thinnest skins in the farm community
(3) I do it

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

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While my comment had a smart-a$$ tone, the fact of the matter remains that if the supply managed sectors could stand on their own merits,(there are none) there would be no need to campaign with the 'milkle down effect', which is quite a stretch to say the least.

This anonymous reply borders on more of a rant than anything, unable to deal with any critique of their tariff system.

When mainstream newspapers start to run numerous articles on how the pork or beef industries are propped up, he/she may have a point. Until then......cry me a river.

Raube Beuerman

I wonder how many pork operations have been propped up by supply managed operations?Some of the more successful operations certainly have collateral ties. Mabey the vote count that Mr. Thompson quotes could possibly answer the question.

A very-good (non-voting) friend of mine was at the 2013 Ontario Pork annual general meeting - idle speculation, even at that time, was that at least some of the 13 votes cast in opposition to the motion to "urge government to place trade ahead of protectionism" were from delegates who also owned quota.

However, this was, and still is, speculation because it was, as so it should be, a secret ballot.

In any event, regardless of the reasoning behind the 13 nay votes, any time there's that much of a majority, and especially for an issue like this, it indicates, without doubt, that there is very little, if any, support for supply management in the non quota owning segment of the farm community - and that's the point that matters as well as the point supply management supporters ignore at their own considerable peril.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

So it was , is and every time you have printed it here , has been nothing more than hearsay . That is not what you have been touting it as !

The 68 - 13 vote to "urge government to place trade ahead of protectionism" wasn't hearsay, it was fact even though supply management supporters are still hoping it was a bad dream - it wasn't.

The only hearsay was about who might have voted against the motion and/or to what extent any nay vote may have been influenced by quota owned by that particular delegate or delegates.

The extent to which supply management supporters will go in ever-desperate attempts to twist and/or deny reality, or even the written word, is simply amazing/horrifying/tragic as is, once again, amply demonstrated by the above dutifully-anonymous poster.

And then the authors of the nit-picking semantics still can't understand why supply management is not well-liked and will not be missed.

Sigh!

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

Would you expect pork producers to vote to put protecting domestic markets ahead of trade?

supply management or simple minded, this does boggle the mind

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