Coped with PED, producer now stung by processor for over $600,000

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You have (had) three buyers now there are two. The buyers therefore make the rules. They make the credit terms. Producers lack the normal business choices to investigate and grant or refuse to grant credit. What normal business would give $600,000 credit to a buyer without demanding financial information and perhaps guarantees? Can producers band together to level the playing field? Not likely. So either government steps in or producers can wait for history to repeat. Selling out of province without guarantees just makes insolvency harder to deal with.

Do you remember Ontario Pork's authority? Maybe we should have let them do their job to protect us instead of listening to packer promises that we usually broken.

There was just a handful of producers and the 3P members that wanted OP to give up control, didn't agree with it then and still don't think it was a good idea. I asked Doug Ahrens OP director at our annual meeting if all the direct contracting,closing yards,ect. has benefited the average pork producer as producer numbers just keep getting smaller. His answer was "I am not going there and I was asked to be on the board for a reason"
I fully expected a non-producer payment but more from an American packer than an Ontario one. I still hope for the best with Quality ,as we don't know all the facts a lot is speculation at this point. We need each other . kg kimball

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It might come to point where directors wish they were not on the board. This mouse has a long tail, it will come out who did not respond to what was known.
It be the ministry, the board or both.

US Packers and stockyards act requires packers to be bonded. Problem solved!!!

Are you kidding!!! We had better protection with Ontario Pork's powers. Remember letters of credit?

Many business accounts go 90 or 120 days before they pay . Might be some thing Ag will soon have to get used to when dealing with livestock sales to packers .

Can you name any commodities where producers wait 90 or 120 days?

Ontario Pork did not get letters of credit for the major packers when they had monopoly powers.... they reviewed financial statements. 2013 statements would not yet be completed...especially if there was complications.....Ontario Pork marketing authority would not have solved these potential loses to the industry.....

I always admire people who don't feel the need for secrecy. People like Jim here deserve a lot of credit for shedding light on a situation everyone in agriculture needs to understand.

Who is the strongest of us all?? Nobody on its own. We need to stand together.

In house monkey talk, I can't explain what they tried to explained.

The board at that time didn't put any effort in to maintain the power of marketing.

Several of the people / groups that appear on the list of creditors made strong presentations @ hearings before the FPMB to dismantle the collective marketing / bargaining power of the board. And they succeeded.

After reading all the previous posts its apparent that producers need to realize that they never had guaranteed payment when OP had its monopoly powers. OP NEVER had letters of credit from the three major processors, leaving producers to be unsecured creditors to these major processors. What's even more pathetic is that these same producers who call for unified action to "bring back the good old days" will at the end of their fiscal year end write thousands of dollars of cheques to their premix, fuel, feed, fertilizer, and seed corn supplier to avoid income taxes and become the very thing they despise, an unsecured creditor. Perhaps a peek in the mirror is warranted before they slam their fellow producer.

No one is slamming there fellow producers as it is not good for either the producers or packers when you have a QMP problem come up . There was several buyers with letters of credit and OP can confirm on who other than QMP with there long standing relationship did not supply one. The question is by going too direct contracts,abolishing single desk selling and OP closing or selling all the marketing yards has it been a net benefit to the majority of the producers? OP has always had great leadership and vision so I fail too understand why some wanted and succeeded in tearing it down. No one has enough clout to do it all on there own. The pig business used to be something a young person could start into at any size and supplement there income but as it is now the ones living in low density pig areas have too have enough to get a trucker too come too the farm as there is no local shipping points. On all levels the problems of QMP is just bad for everyone and anyone shipping too any plant should be first in line for payment and not a unsecured creditor.

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