OFA study quantifies farming’s economic impact on Ontario

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Studies of this sort are notorious for neglecting key things, and one of them is ignoring the drag effect caused by restrictive legislation. For example, since because of 200% tariff barriers, supply management is net-negative, agriculture's contribution to the Ontario economy isn't accurately, or fairly, represented.

In addition, it's fundamentally-obvious that whatever size our agricultural industry is, it would be a lot bigger if supply management didn't drive consumers into the US to buy their dairy and poultry products, and if high farm-gate pricing didn't restrict consumer demand accordingly.

Equally as important as the $3.9 billion in tax revenue associated with farming activities, is the offsetting extra, and after-tax, expenditures forced on consumers to buy dairy and poultry products, yet that pesky and damning fact, seems to never get mentioned in these sorts of reports.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

So lets take Supply Management out it....talk about net-negative !

Anything, including supply management, which exists because of 200% tariff barriers, is always net-negative for jobs and economic activity - sorry, but that's just the way it is, and it isn't open to debate, or even discussion.

It is, therefore, also not open to debate or discussion, that the elimination of 200% tariff barriers will produce more jobs and economic activity than what is created by the presence of these tariffs.

It's really too-bad farmers can be so-obtuse about basic economic principles.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

Arent you a OFA director? Doesnt the Farm Organization Act say the farm orgs must represent all commodities? Bashing supply management is not supporting all commodities.Does all OFA directors bash some commodities like you?How does the OFA get accrediation when the directors don't support all commodities?

You said a mouthful. I certainly would not want an organization where the board of directors always agree, even when they don't, and I definitely would not want any organization to have members that are afraid to be blunt and outspoken. Raube Beuerman

Its not democracy

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If the price is to much wait till its on sale , if not buy something that is. Eat the SM products or whatever they what to charge a big price in moderation. SM products is not the only thing that is ram down every ones throat in high prices. LOOK at the hydro is it controlled by the government and we cannot import it into Ontario because they control the price and the import, which by the way is 0%. Who controls the solar and wind turbines projects the Ontario government and only the chosen few gets to have them. I need your glasses that only look at a single group and not the whole picture.

Only eat staple food products when there on sale ? who says that ? like really ? What should mums do give their kids cola unless there is a sale on milk ? your comments are absurd and i can almost guarantee that your not the person doing the shopping and preparing the food in your house hold, with the ridicules comments you make.

Sean McGivern

I love how people with no or very little knowledge about any form of agriculture bash supply management. A simple truth is that a two dollar glass of milk puts 8 cents on a farmers milk check. That's not net, that's what they get to make it. Multinational foods companies, unionized workers in the plants and everyone else involved makes way more of a margin than the farmer. It sickens me to hear that everyone else deserves to get paid twice as much as the farmer for less than half the working hours and nothing invested. its more important to have two cell phones, a tablet,lap top and a home computer than staple food. I say grow your own and find out a few truths with all your new extra income!

Dale

What's far worse is farmers who don't understand, and refuse to understand, that any system, which, like supply management, is dependent on 200% tariff barriers, is always, and will always be, net-negative when it comes to jobs and economic activity.

Therefore, it simply doesn't matter how many jobs, and how much economic activity, is supposedly generated by supply management, there will always be more jobs, and more economic activity, as well as economic benefit to the consumer, without supply management.

Therefore, without mincing words, if somebody doesn't know anything about economics, especially the economics of protectionism, they don't know anything about agriculture, and they especially don't know anything about supply management - too bad for them, too bad for us all.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

I love how farmers attempt to obscure or obfuscate the truth in a never ending attempt to prove how victimized they are by an ignorant Canadian, non-farmer populace. Some farmers have been known to actually lie.
Dale, for your post to have any semblance of truth and honesty , people would have to squeeze 9 or 10 glasses of milk of of 1 liter . It is not exactly a state secret that farmers currently receive between 75 and 82 cents per liter. I don't drink my milk out of a shot glass---that is for good whiskey.
Dale, I pay somewhere between $1 and $1.25 / liter at the local grocery store. This tells me that the local hard done by farmer is receiving over 50% of the retail price for his wholesale milk. This means that the multinational food processors, truckers,unionized workers and the actual retailers must somehow squeeze out a profit from the less than 50% that they have left after the farmer has taken his share. Do you even know what a "loss leader" is Dale? It means selling at a loss. Something you as a dairy farmer don't have to worry about, so your ignorance of the term is forgiven.
I say retail your own product and find out a few Truths with all your new extra income.

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