Rural Ontario needs natural gas infrastructure says OFA president

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Of course we need more when you support Greed Energy and the Fiberals . You have to have gas plants to support wind turbines for when the wind is not blowing .

I am told that Gov already has policy for gas for all of rural Ontario . So why then is being made to look like something new ?

What will the hook up charges be and the price rural persons will have to pay for rural gas ? It is fine and well to to spout out savings when you are looking at currunt pricing but we all know that the price of the gas and the hook up charges could very well be different for new rural lines . Please show us your research and figures that you are working from to make such claims . The fact that " so more residents can get the fuel " does not mean that they are wanting it for remote rural farmers or even their members who they are supposed to be working on behalf of . It could also be that gas may come to more rural but at a price that is not price competitive . So many get caught up in the price difference . Just like if you look at the price difference between oil and propane . Many only see the price per litre difference but never see the BTU per L difference that makes one the same price as the other .

Some of the home insurance companies will not take on new customers that use furnace oil to heat their homes and some are raising the premiums so high if you use furnace oil to make it cost prohibited that many have to switch to something else. Natural gas is cheaper then propane, but most us here in my part of rural Ontario can not get natural gas.
Kim Sytsma

Gas is quickly becoming the only economical power source remaining for rural Ontario. As Kim says, the insurance industry is pushing oil heat to the curb. Propane is priced to compete with oil so it isn't cheap either.. That leaves mushrooming expensive wind contract electricity costs or much cheaper natural gas. Now add in less kwhr of electricity needed because of conservation, coupled with some unnecessary costly grid upgrades to try and buffer the fluctuations in expensive wind turbine electricity production and we are going to see electricity prices skyrocket to prices that makes Ontario uncompetitive with the rest of the world. In fact, given current factory closures because of uncompetitive hydro costs we already are. Now add in 90% cheaper fuel cells: http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/08/14/redox-power-plans... to help us get off grid and use even less wind power. Duh???? We are already paying to shut industrial wind turbines down for longer time periods (we pay them to produce zero kwwhrs), yet our gov't continues to build more of what we don't need, so we can shut down more and (still pay for even more 0 kwhrs). Little wonder that there are now approx. 80 municipalities having serious objections to any further wind power construction.

You have to wonder "What is the present government of Ontario thinking? " Every time the Opposition mentions that our electricity is going through the roof , driving away jobs and will soon be driving people from their homes the Ontario Government says" You want to kill the children."
One of the few manufacturing plants we have left here in our area received a letter from Odensburg , NY inviting them to move their plant there with the help of N.Y. 3 cent electricity.

traditionally, wind mills were used to grind grains directly and to raise water up on to a higher place -- for use later -- like a battery -- nothing other than a battery is the complement to a windmill. -- any other answer is 'just a gas'

We recently submitted a 36 signed petition, 2 of them small businesses, to Enbridge to extend the Natural Gas line by approx. 3 - 4 km to supply petitioners. Enbridge's answer? It would cost each of these new customers near $40,000 each to extend the pipeline to them. In other words Enbridge is not interested in expanding their customer base, it only wants to increase their profits by asking for a 40% increase to be absorbed by existing customers. Don't you agree?

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