Tribunal dismisses dairy farmer’s appeal

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Farmer’s medical condition doesn’t exempt him from controversial quota assessment policy, appeal tribunal decides

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This lucky guy still got to stuff $1.75 million dollars in his pocket for something which probably cost him next to nothing to acquire because, at over $31,000 per kilo, he did a pretty-good job of topping the market.

If he sold now at $25,000 per kilo and got 100%, he'd be getting $1.65 million, or $100,000 less than what he actually got.

Pardon me for thinking he's more than just a tad greedy, and trying to have everything both ways - but then, isn't trying to have everything both ways, exactly what supply management is all about?

This whole quota system on all the commodities has evolved into a disgusting mess. It just makes me want to barf to witness it. I really feel sorry for all the farmers out there who want so badly to milk a few cows and raise some poultry in a free manner. It is shocking to see how a few special interest groups have been able to enlist the government's help to control the farming community at large.

LOL. What ?

It's hard to feel a whole lot of financial sympathy for someone who, at over $31,000 per kilo, sold his quota near the top of the market.

Furthermore, when not if TPP is signed by Canada, and quota starts to gradually become worthless, the decision by this farmer to have divested his quota when he did, for whatever reason, is going to be seen, in hindsight, as a particularly well-timed decision.

No matter how anyone looks at it, this farmer became quite-wealthy by selling a piece of paper at effectively the most-opportune time possible - I suspect the buyer of that piece of paper may not fare so well.

As always, caveat emptor!

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

No TPP is going to be signed Stephen quit dreaming

In last week's Ontario Farmer, Toronto trade lawyer, James, McIlroy, noted that the long-term strategy of spineless politicians of all parties has been to let supply management implode on its own by allowing in duty-free imports of MPIs with the result that - "the system is no longer viable".

Supply management has, indeed, imploded on its own, because dumping 800,000 litres of skim milk into lagoons was the inevitable outcome of a system which is "no longer viable" and is the sort of thing which makes politicians look stupid for continuing to support it and which makes dairy farmers look even stupider for being so devoted to defending quota values that they can't/won't do anything about it either.

Even worse for supply managed farmers is that non-supply managed farmers see this deliberate wasting of a product that would be completely marketable in the absence of supply management, as just another reason to get rid of supply management, and the rural aristocracy it supports, the sooner, the better.

The bottom line is that McIlroy notes that the "major industry stumble" of dumping skim milk into lagoons is going to be a significant factor that will give politicians justifiable momentum to deal with this before Labour Day.

It's like this - I can afford to be wrong, dairy and poultry farmers can't.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

but to those who don't like milk , don't drink milk , or don't like/drink skim milk it won't cross their mind .
There is more food wasted in this world that there should not be a hungry person on the planet .
Might as well dump all the LGD beer down the drain also .

Whenever ethanol advocates and supply management supporters can't come up with any other reason to support either of their respective boon-doggles, and that's pretty-much all the time, they try to portray wasted food as the far-bigger enemy, as if that will be the "magic pill" that will make the deliberate waste of food by virtue of the legislation behind ethanol and supply management somehow acceptable - it won't.

It's like this - normal food wastage isn't legislatively-created waste, supply management and ethanol both are. Therefore, there is nothing good about legislation which, as in the case of both supply management and ethanol, results in the deliberate wasting of even more.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

See: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/chicken-industry-an-unfair-...

Let's not let some facts like New Zealand import blocks get in the way of your thesis.

In response to "New Zealand Blocks Chicken Imports" http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/chicken-industry-an-unfair-...

Many of the worst poultry diseases do not exist in New Zealand and Australia.

To open the door to a host of diseases that are endemic in chicken breeding stocks around the world (including Canada's flocks) would be insane.

To import potentially sick birds into New Zealand would be the same as proposing the importation of cows from England in 1987 at the height of their Mad Cow Disease epidemic there, when the rest of the world was free of Mad Cow.

Glenn Black
Small Flock Poultry Farmers of Canada
http://canadiansmallflockers.blogspot.ca

Disease or sanitary reasons, whether real or trivial, are effectively the same as 2000% tariffs.

I ve just read an article in the Tri-State Farm News on the huge surplus of milk in the USA this year. They are on track for a record year production wise, prices are down aa lot from last year, and,,they have had to dump skim milk in a couple of places as the plants can t handle the excess.

As well as being prohibited from exporting the recent skim milk surplus, DFO made no attempt to use the "price" component of the marketing mix to try to place this surplus skim milk into the marketing channel because supply management, with the exception of milk destined to become mozzarella cheese for frozen pizza makers, and to a lesser extent, fresh pizza makers, forbids the use of price to equate demand and supply - thereby maintaining the dictum - "the supply goes up, the supply goes down, but the price under supply management never, never, never wavers from the cost-of-production Holy Grail".

On the other hand, the US system allows for the use of exports as well as the use of price in the marketing mix and, therefore, price is used to clear surpluses, a practice, thanks to supply management, not allowed in Canada.

Therefore, instead of having anonymous supply management supporters try to be dismissive about the milk dumped by others, they should try to imagine how much more would be dumped in the US if they, too, had the same bizarre prohibitions against the use of price as a milk marketing tool as we do in Canada.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

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