Accreditation eludes NFU-O

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The NFU knew all along that they were "sailing close to the wind" by being, in effect, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the national organization based in western Canada. They knew all along that they were treading on the thin edge of fiduciary responsibility by funnelling the entire $429,000 in annual fees to the national organization, and they knew all along that policies which couldn't be clearly shown to have been made in Ontario, by their members in Ontario, was bordering on irresponsibility. This tribunal seems to have effectively agreed, and, by virtue of their statement, has decided that the NFU, as presently organized, and run in Ontario, doesn't satisfy enough of the letter of, and/or intent of, the relevant legislation to warrant continued status under that legislation. The NFU had 20 years to "get their act together", didn't do it, and has now paid the price for trying to make the legislation fit the NFU, rather than make the NFU fit the legislation.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton, ON

Prospective NFU members whose FBR cheques weren't cashed by the May 23 deadline, and who may now find their cheques returned to them if the NFU isn't accredited by December 31, 2012, should really be required to issue a replacement cheque to either the CFFO or the OFA to be eligible for continued farm property tax reduction benefits for 2013.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

Retaining a farm registration number entitles a farmer to a specific farm tax rate..... NOT a "farm property tax reduction benefit". It is a set tax rate that subsidizes a corporation formed through legislation.

Commercial, industrial, multi-res...etc.... have specific tax rates ...or would you classify them as 'property tax increased handicaps'?

You really should do your homework about municipal taxation.

joann vergeer

The point is that if you don't pay the FBR fee to a valid farm organization, your property taxes go up by a lot the next year. It happened to one of my clients a number of years ago, and ever since then, I've been responsible for paying his registration fee on time because neither of us wants to see it happen to him again. I'm merely pointing out that it would be too bad to see any NFU member suffer that fate because they didn't ever pay $195 to an accredited farm organization during 2012. Secondly, I don't know what you mean when you refer to a "corporation formed through legislation". Most farms are owned by individuals, not corporations, and even if a corporation owned a farm, as long as it has a FBR number, it's all the same thing.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

I was making reference to the set tax rate that subsidizes a municipal corporation.

Municipalities are corporations and are creatures of the Province.

The taxes we pay to those corporations are subsidies.

joann

I'm sure those prospective NFU members who may soon find themselves on the outside of the 2012 FBR program, and looking in, will be most-reassured to know that the extra property taxes they could easily be paying in 2013, are, in your opinion, subsidies to the municipalities collecting those taxes. While I'm also sure those farmers who might inadvertently find themselves paying more property tax next year, are most-appreciative of what appears to be your vast knowledge of unrelated matters, the only relevant point has to do with who is paying this extra tax, not who is receiving it - yet it's a point which seems to have eluded you completely.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

nothey dont have to give their check to ofa of cffo we did have the option of giving toofa and the ask for money back so why chage it>

Why should some NFU members who end up not paying any accredited organization the $195 FBR registration fee in 2012, be entitled to lower property taxes in 2013, when nobody else would be able to get away with it? As I understand it, compliance, for any farmer, is now all about paying the money to either the CFFO or the OFA in the first place, and not what the farmer decides to do with it later.

So if Ag Minister McMeekin was so supportive of the NFU's re-accreditation, as Miss Slater says, then why when he had 3 opportunities to write the tribunal supporting the NFU's bid did he not once pick up his pen and ink a letter to the tribunal ??? He is not a foolish man, he knew the what was going on at the NFU-O and there for he chose to to say nothing publicly, smart man.

Sean McGivern
PFO

In a recent news release, the NFU wandered all over the map to blame everyone but themselves for their recent failure to keep their accreditation as a general farm organization in Ontario. Firstly, the NFU claims that legal counsel for the government "supported" their application, yet they seem to not understand that, to many people, this could be seen as "abuse of process" by the Minister in order to try to bully the Tribunal. The NFU would have been the first to claim abuse of process if counsel for the Minister had opposed their application, yet they fall all over themselves to ignore this double standard when things appear to be in their favour. Secondly, the NFU never does get to the nub of the issue which is that instead of being a truly autonomous Ontario farm organization, the Ontario branch of the NFU, for all intents and purposes, appears to be a wholly-owned subsidiary of the national office in western Canada, and would appear to have not been able to prove to the Tribunal that there was either a legitimate division of responsibility and policy functions, and/or be able to demonstrate the due diligence trail to validate this autonomy. As a case in point, in their recent release, the NFU claimed that had their efforts been successful, we'd still have single-desk selling at the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB), yet the CWB is of no relevance in Ontario - leading anyone to conclude that issues of concern to the NFU's national office are automatically issues of equal concern to their members in Ontario, when, by definition, that is not the case at all. Ironically, in their news release, by citing the CWB example, the NFU made it quite easy for the Tribunal to justify their decision. Thirdly, the NFU's claim that they do good research and produce good reports, is objectionable. As an example, a few years ago, they produced a report comparing the return on equity of publicly-traded agribusiness companies with the return on equity in primary agriculture. Unfortunately, they chose the rate of return on book value of equity for the agribusiness companies, and the rate or return on market value of equity for farming - a technique which, politely, compares apples and oranges, and is the sort of technique which merits an automatic failure at any level of academic pursuit. What's worse is that when I complained to the NFU's national office about the misleading aspects of this report, they were completely-un-apologetic and completely-un-repentant about what they had done, and how they had done it. Let's put it this way, if this type of horribly-designed, and therefore completely-misleading, report is what the NFU is all about, and by their news release, they would seem to claim it is, we really could do well without the NFU at all.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

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