New twist in Ontario’s General Farm Organization saga

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Minster says he doesn’t know the outcome of recent tribunal hearings but he’s enacting legislation to waive mandatory GFO membership for farmers

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Why the heck is the ones don,t need insurance to get a cheque for your duck or chicken ,etc. and the ones that has crop damage doesn,t get a cheque without crop insurance?
Talk about a two edge sword and now we are going to get people writing in saying buy insurance for your crops or have another type of program.
There is no different from losing to an animal or mother nature, have an animal killed have insurance or have a program to cover your bad luck.

I believe decades ago Canada and Prvinces seen fit to bring legislation in to have farmers buy subsidized crop insurance, I also believe there was not enough demand to settup or how to setup aplan that would work for livestock, therefore we have when needed addhock aid for livestck farmers when needed

Seem to remember livestock had cheap supplies of grain. The big question we should ask is what is the floating price for corn and beans that crop insurance will have to pay and do they have enough money?

The minister's statement makes no sense.

The deadline to register with a GFO is March 31 of each year. That is a long standing rule. There are farmers that did not register by the deadline. Those farmers should not get an exemption. Why should they get benefits when they chose not to meet the deadline?

If there is a new farmer that started a farm business of bought a farm after March 31, I can understand the exemption.

The minister is not consistent in his treatment towards farmers.

How IN THE DEVIL COULD 4900 farmers forget to register by march , to me all three farm orgs have made fools of themselves ,Watch membership drop if FBR is not needed, Our farm groups are a LAUGHING STOCK like leader ants in an ant hill, We have leaders with ego but representing no common sense, but repreesnting an intercircle of perceved wisdom and greed .

There are lots of reasons why farmers may be still applying for a registration number. I also have farmers whom I represent that paid their money on time, but Agricorp made a mistake processing there application and it was not corrected by May 22 or what ever day they stopped processing applications and they won't correct the mistake. So a member who paid on time is still not registered and doesn't know when they will be. Such a screwup. Why could this just applied to next years registrations if they wanted to make changes and just leave this year alone? And why are they waiting so long after the hearing to decide if they will reacredit? Are they just trying to waste time and money?

John Gillespie
RR 2 Ripley
President Bruce County Federation of Agriculture.

I registered and paid on time with lots of time to spare. If this incompetent minister is going to give a exemption to farmers that failed to register on time then all farmers should have the same courtesy.

Send all the money back to all the farmers. That way all farmers will be treated equally.

gentlemen the government civil servants see farmers paying $10000 plus per acre for land, Ontario is now a have not province with hugh debt, So what a fantastic way to manuerve the province to eventual banning farm tax rebates.

Strange things happen

You over estimate the government's abilities.

When was the last time we had a minister that represented farmers competently in Ontario?

Jack Riddell, Helen Johns, and Carol Mitchell, all quite-competently represented farmers - Carol got "sand-bagged" by the on-going wind turbine fiasco, but that didn't diminish her ability to deal with issues of a more agricultural nature.

Stephen Thompson, Clinton ON

They might be nice people but did it qualify them to be competent with important matters?

William Stewart was probably the best minister in the last 50 years. At least the government cared about farmers then.

I totally agree there should be no special arrangement made for those who where late filing for their FBR number unless they were a new farmer or farm business.

If people had to sit out a year and pay the higher tax level they would soon make sure they didn't forgot to pay on time.

However if it was ever challenged in the courts i don't think the government would win, it isn't right to mandate farmers to join any organization even if their is an option to get their money back.

Religious exemptions shouldn't be the only way out, if you can support any of the GFO's

You wait and see, i will betcha the government has some thing up its sleeve,
and before long it wont be mandatory to join a GFO, i believe this because of all the efforts they are going through to figure out what and who constitutes a member and membership.

We have the right to associate and their for have the right to not associate.

If some would challenge this in the Supreme Court, i would bet a $100.00 round bale of hay, the government would lose.

The PFO this year will work to lobby the government to add a new box where farmers can request their money back, with out it having to go to a GFO, in the first place.

Sean McGivern
President Practical Farmers of Ontario

That makes sense. But I think the gov. has found a way to pave the way whereby only one GFO will survive. There has been calls to only have one farm org. and I can see the results of the tribunal elimating all GFOs except one.

Gov. gets the one farm group by default not by farmers vote.

Gov Farm Programs and the Farm Tax Rebate should not be tied to a membership . Premise ID is tied to programs but not a GFO membership . It has been almost 20 years of stable funding . It's time to let them go on their own . Oh but then the Liberals would not have been able to push through the Green Belt and the Green Enenrgy Act . OFA played a key role in representing farmers or was it McFlinty and Fiberals on both of those .

I am flabbergasted that OMAFRA/ Agricorp is asking the groups how they define "member" and "membership". What is this a grade 11 English project!? After using the same Act for several years, now they want to nitpick.

Pretty sure there are lots of issues which need attention:

Drought
Drought
Growing Forward 2
Rainfall insurance - revamp? Why is only 10% of farmers using it?
OSPCA - revamp. Yes I am aware that technically OMAFRA is not in charge of this, but the could/should play a role.
Feed/food Prices.
Clean water issues - including run off from greenhouses.
Endangered species / species at risk - legislation going too far.
And lots of other issues.

Get this straightened out ASAP, everybody, and deal with the real issues at hand.

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