Quota exemption for Ontario’s small chicken farmers

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Chicken Farmers of Ontario is permitting small flock operators to market chickens.


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So, if I interpret this right, even if I only raise birds for my own use, I must register them, even if I hatch them myself, I must register them. This gives inspectors the right to come onto my property. Customers are not allowed near the birds. Free range is pretty much impossible. I must get rid of all my other livestock and pets. By registering I am supporting an industry I don't agree with through fees imposed at their discretion and the government is also looking for more if they find me in violation. This is what society gets for demanding the government supply cheap food. This is supported by a government that maintains they are accountable. Our question should be "just who are they accountable to?" I wonder what they will do now that urban areas are allowed to have backyard chickens. If this is all about avian flu, I need to know what they will do about all the wild turkeys, grouse, geese and ducks in my area, not to mention all birds. It's AVIAN flu, not chicken flu, and it became a problem due to the conditions of the commercial industry. It's interesting to note when I allow my birds to roam, my feed bill drops considerably, which suggests to me that they are not getting everything they need or want from commercial feed. I am not interested in supplying the public with meat, but only for my own consumption, so I see this as a direct assault on privacy. Just sign me---Outraged

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That is how i read it too -- http://smallflock.ca/files/2328-2010%20Small%20Flock%20&%20Farm%20Gate%2... is the official "Small Flock & Farm Gate Marketing Regulation" link.

The regulation says a grower must comply with Bird Health Basics for Backyard Flocks -- http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/disemala/avflu/bacdoc/floelee....

And this document says you house birds outside. A Polyface Farms model (mobile coops, birds pasturing with fields shared with cattle) would never fly in Ontario.

And then, if that's not enough, you cannot market the product what so ever.

Anyone else have an opinion?

Quote Systems suppress growth of local food systems

This quota systems are absurb archaic protectionist systems put in place to protect existing producers, and severly hinder the growth of local food systems and economies.

quota

I agree completely. Quota is stifling innovation and sustainability in the poultry production.They are stifling local and smaller farmers who understand the birds and use production systems that benefit the bird and the land and environment
I wish we could gather more like minded people and show the quota boards the power of the people in this matter. I have tried for 2 years to get the Ontario board to allow organic and free range broilers to be grown under a special license as it is in BC and Nova Scotia. We are willing to pay a license fee, a quota per bird, to be able to produce, sell and market where we please.
I run up against the 'brick wall' everytime. Why is this sector of the livestock industry protected and not others ??? because the 'big boys' of the industry have it all to themselves and refuse to let anyone else on their 'patch' in case they actually produce a better product and have a wide market. When will the consumer wake up to the fact that these prices are fixed and they have absolutely 'no choice ' of bird.
The cost to set up a small operation by buying quota runs into the millions of dollars, who can afford that? or who wants to put themselves into such debt. or even have the ability to borrow such sums?
Itis perfectly simple, they still can have the say of maximum production ( given sensible limits not the paltry 300 per yaer, who can make a living from that?)and inspect the production. I am willing to work with them, include them in the whole process.
Have you ever seen a real free range broiler, a coloured bird, grown under real free range regulations? in any store in Canada? Once eaten never ever would you want to eat another commercial bird again. Maybe that is why the quota boards are so adamant about keeping us out.

Quota System

Would everyone on this site prefer and American style system where the food industry is completely subsidized by the government and the producers are controlled by the feed companies like Cargill? You can't have it both ways. Nobody cares if a few hippies grow some chickens in their backyard but the Canadian quota systems protects the family farm and ensures their livelihood.

Unfortunately, by protecting

Unfortunately, by protecting your livelihood, supply management is curtailing mine. Take a look at who is driving land prices…….

without the supply

without the supply management guys keeping poultry prices at profitable levels you wouldn't even be interested in having your small flock. just a thought

chickens

I personally think there is a very big difference on how people perceive “chickens”

What is scientifically sound for commercial broiler production does not work for all breeds of chickens (there are literally hundreds of breeds). A large portion of the folks who are pursuing chicken farming on a small scale are contemplating doing so with breeds which are outside the current production system.

Most breeds can’t be covered by the processing form since they only exist in small “backyard” flocks as they have done for their entire existence. It probably is best to leave commercial broiler production (anyone using standard commercial breed) to those individuals with quota who can supply the animals which what science has deemed necessary. After all those birds were created for the modern poultry environment.

With the movement to preserve heritage livestock poultry breeds suffer most in Ontario as the necessary numbers needed to preserve a given breed would necessitate some small scale sales of meat or eggs to keep interest in the breeds. None of the “heritage” breeds most small scale producers uses would ever be capable of competing with the efficiency of modern chicken’s in a modern production system. Personally I truly think there needs to be a better definition put forward for a legal definition of what a “commercial” chicken is rather than lumping all breeds together (we don’t do that for any other type of livestock so why we do this under the chicken marketing boards is beyond me).

You hit the nail on the

You hit the nail on the head!It's all about the breed of chicken.

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